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Personal story on admission to a Veteran’s Nursing Home

Recently, I was asked for help in finding a long-term care facility for the husband of a friend who is presently very ill and in a rehabilitation facility.  Since he is a veteran, I contacted a Veteran’s Home in a town nearest to our friend’s home with the following discoveries.

Speaking by phone to the Veterans Home’s Admission Director, I asked the following questions and got the following answers from the director.

  1. What is the application process for this veteran who is presently in a rehabilitation facility in a nearby town? The Admission Director said that the present facility would have to send them a referral for a transfer to the Veteran’s Home.
  2. When asked if there was a waiting list, the Admission Director said there is a waiting list but because he was presently in a rehabilitation center he could be admitted, if eligible, without being on the waiting list.
  3. When asked about the Per Diem afforded to veterans at the Veteran’s Home, the Admission Director stated that he would be eligible for the 110 dollars per day if admitted and he would be responsible for the remainder of 155 dollars.
  4. When asked about the possibility of Aid and Attendance funds for veterans and if he got those funds could they be used for paying the 155 dollars per day. The Admission Director stated that he could use that money to pay toward the 155 dollars, his part of the daily rate.
  5. The veteran is also receiving dialysis three days per week and when asked about help with getting to those appointments the Admission Director stated that the patient would have to contract with a local company to receive those treatments.

The answers from the Admission Director were very encouraging and I would advise our friend to visit the Veteran’s Home and get confirmation on all these questions since the answers are to my best recollection and need to be doubled checked in case I misunderstood.

Plus, a personal visit would give our friend a close look at the staff and the facility to see it is a good fit for her husband.

CAREGIVERS LOOKING FOR LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES

CAREGIVERS LOOKING FOR LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES

(from our experiences, yours may be different)

Many caregivers come to the point where they can no longer do all that is needed to care for their loved one.  That happened to our family and here’s what we did. It’s important to note that my wife’s sister and her husband all worked closely together during these multiple events.   I’m hopeful it will help you.

Assisted Living (Upscale senior living facilities, the ones we contacted did not take Medicaid)

We contacted and visited assisted living facilities and learned all about them.  Most of the ones we contacted had a waiting list.  We went ahead and put our loved one’s name on it.  You can always decline if or when they contact you with a vacancy.

Health Care Facilities aka Nursing Homes or Long-Term Care

We did the same with long term facilities “nursing homes” or health care facilities.  These facilities are usually both rehabilitation centers and long-term care facilities.  Those we contacted do take Medicaid.

Get an appointment with a social worker or intake person at those facilities. We learned a lot by visiting those facilities.  The people there are very knowledgeable and willing to help.  We were also able to prioritize which ones we thought were the best places to consider.

Explore those close to you first!  It’s super important to be able to visit as often as possible and to be an advocate for your loved one.  Enlist other relatives to help you if possible.

Check out those places you prefer as much as possible and narrow your choices to two or three.  Contact them at least once a week to see if they have vacancies.  They may tell you the waiting list is long but those waiting lists are very volatile with people getting off for various reasons.

Cost of Long-Term Care Facilities

Find out how much they cost.  Assisted living facilities may initially cost less but costs can increase as the amount of care increases.  It’s also important to know that Medicaid does not pay for most assisted living facilities.  The ones we contacted where all private pay so you either paid out of your loved ones assets or from Long Term Care Insurance if you have it.

Nursing Homes or long-term care facilities do take Medicaid if you qualify for help with the monthly cost.  If you are like me, you may not know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid.  Click here to learn more.

Ways to pay for Assisted Living and Long-Term Care Facilities

If you don’t have long term care insurance or qualify for Medicaid then you will have to pay from your own or your loved one’s assets.

When our parents both went into long term care, they did not qualify for Medicaid, so we had to sell their home, car, other assets and use all the cash value from their life insurance to pay the nursing home bills.  Once those assets where exhausted (three years), they qualified for Medicaid which paid the nursing home bills the rest of their lives.

Note:  Medicaid may be different in your state since it is a mix of federal and state assistance.

If you are having to pay out of pocket there are several possible sources you can explore.  One is a HELOC loan on your home, especially if one spouse is still living in the home, also known as a second mortgage. This source allows you to keep your home but you will have to make monthly payments, but can stretch it out over time and HELOC loans usually have a better interest rate than other loans.

Another source is cash value from life insurance policies you may have.  This source is a little more complicated and you need to talk with your insurance agent for details.  The times we have borrowed from cash value, we haven’t had to make monthly payment unless we chose that method.  If we decided to not pay it back, we did not have to, we just would not get the full amount of your policy when the insured passes.

Veterans Long Term Care

Veterans may have access to a long-term care funds called Aid and Attendance.  You may contact the local VA or call an 800 number for help in getting these funds.  Most assisted living and long term care facilities will have this information for Veterans.

The 800 number we called was 800 878 2149 a law office that specializes in helping with this benefit.  They can tell you if you qualify or not.  If you don’t qualify their service are free, if you do qualify and get it then they charged you 800 dollars at that time.  If you qualify then you may get up to 2000 dollars or more each month to help with health cost.  We did not know about this fund and missed out on it but several of our friends have gotten it.  Do not assume you don’t qualify.  The people at the 800 number can tell you for sure and they won’t charge you unless you do get it.

We will add more to this post as we have time and learn even more!

Senior Citizens Need Help – July 20, 2019

Senior Citizens Need Help

Even though we started getting mail when we turned forty from organizations telling us we were now seniors, my wife and I did not know how much we needed help as Senior Citizens until we were in our fifties. We didn’t even know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid!

Tipping Point

The tipping point was when my wife’s parents needed our help to live at home. Her father started have mini-seizures and before long he could not take care of himself at home even with his wife’s and our help. After many trips to the hospital and stays in rehabilitation centers, he became confined to a long term care health center for his care.

Medicare vs. Medicaid?

At that point, we did not even know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid. We soon learned that to pay the super expensive care of a long term care facility, we had to get him on Medicaid.

The High Cost of Long Term Care

Soon after, his wife, my wife’s mother, was diagnosed with Alzheimer and had to be admitted into a special long term care facility in another town for her care. The cost of these two facilities was over 10,000 dollars per month! They could not afford that and we were forced to learn all about Medicaid and how it is different from Medicare.

If you are in your fifties, this will be valuable information for both you and your parents! Medicare/Medicaid

If you are retired and need extra funding for what ever reason, read my review of Wealthy Affiliate on this site.  I’m loving it!

This is my first blog in this website. Come back for more in the coming days.

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